There was a talk a few days back about what jnana yoga was. It is mostly philosophy and questioning who am I and what am I. What is the mind and what is the self? I read a few verses from the Gita and had some thoughts on it:
1. Nor at any time indeed was I not, nor thou, nor these rulers of men, not verily shall we ever cease to be hereafter.
This is most likely pointing to the immortality of the Soul or the imperishable nature of the Self. The soul exists in the past, present and future, which means that man continues to exist even after the death of the physical body.
(But the soul when it leaves the body is not a 'pure' soul. Does it leave the body with all the samskaras and the mind as well?. The most widely accepted Brahmanical description of this mechanism is strongly biological in tone. We are told that after severing its connection with the human body, the soul dwells for some twelve days in a transitional ghostly form (preta). Thereafter, freed from this limbo through ritual offerings (sraddha) by the son of the deceased, it travels upward to the "realm of the father" (pitr-loka),there to remain for an indeterminate period. )
There are two states for man -- the state in this world, and the state in the next; there is also a third state, the state intermediate between these two, which is like a dream. While in the intermediate state, and man experiences both the other states, that in this world and that in the next. When he dies, he lives only in the subtle body, on which are left the impressions of his past deeds. Probably while in the intermediate state, he foresees both the evils and the blessings that will yet come to him, as these are determined by his conduct, good or bad, upon the earth, and by the character in which this conduct has resulted. Thus it is that in the intermediate state he experiences the second state, or that of life in the world to come. This state is called heaven/hell I think.
In the intermediate state there are no real chariots, nor horses, nor roads; but by the light of the Self he creates chariots and horses and roads. There are no real blessings, nor joys, nor pleasures; but he creates blessings and joys and pleasures. There are no real ponds, nor lakes, nor rivers; but he creates ponds and lakes and rivers. He is the creator of all these out of the impression left by his past deeds.
If only there was a practical experience for all that is said here. No one seems to remember anything of this intermediate state! Wonder how many years before this truth is unfolded. Isnt He tired of these yugas and very few souls realizing their true nature and coming back to Him?. What a pass time for Him to put us in pre-determined illusions!
Why is it so difficult to detach from the mind? or identify with the Self?. In one of the verses of Gita:
2. That firm man whom, surely, these afflict not, O chief among men, to whom pleasure and pain are the same, is fit for attaining immortality.
Identification with the body is the cause for pleasure and pain! The more you are able to identify yourself with the immortal, all-pervading Self, the less one will be affected by pairs of opposites like pleasure and pain etc. The power of endurance I think develops will power. Calm endurance in pleasure or pain, heat or cold is the most necessary in the path to Self realization. Though I feel only endurance with no discrimination or intelligence is useless.
I think of the Self like ether. That which encompasses everything and yet contains nothing. It cannot be destroyed or broken and exists in living and non living objects as well. Even if the everything perishes, the Self that pervades cannot perish. It is always all full and self contained and immutable and inexhaustible. Why then do we look outward so much for love and appreciation? Why is the mind impeding and obstructing the view so much?. I sometimes feel the whole world's ego has manifested itself physically as gravity. If we had no ego and no qualities pulling us down like hatred anger jealousy etc, the physical weight of the body would be zero and we can fly!. They do say that once the bottom three chakras are open, one can fly! And the muladhara(materialism, social order, wealth, survival, family) svadhistana (blame, guilt, sex, power, control, expectations), and manipura chakra ( self-esteem, fear of rejection, criticism, ego ) are associated with those respective emotions. Imagine being free of those and nothing to weight you down. I already feel lighter just thinking of being free from those emotions!.
So what do you want to let go of this week or month?
1. Nor at any time indeed was I not, nor thou, nor these rulers of men, not verily shall we ever cease to be hereafter.
This is most likely pointing to the immortality of the Soul or the imperishable nature of the Self. The soul exists in the past, present and future, which means that man continues to exist even after the death of the physical body.
(But the soul when it leaves the body is not a 'pure' soul. Does it leave the body with all the samskaras and the mind as well?. The most widely accepted Brahmanical description of this mechanism is strongly biological in tone. We are told that after severing its connection with the human body, the soul dwells for some twelve days in a transitional ghostly form (preta). Thereafter, freed from this limbo through ritual offerings (sraddha) by the son of the deceased, it travels upward to the "realm of the father" (pitr-loka),there to remain for an indeterminate period. )
There are two states for man -- the state in this world, and the state in the next; there is also a third state, the state intermediate between these two, which is like a dream. While in the intermediate state, and man experiences both the other states, that in this world and that in the next. When he dies, he lives only in the subtle body, on which are left the impressions of his past deeds. Probably while in the intermediate state, he foresees both the evils and the blessings that will yet come to him, as these are determined by his conduct, good or bad, upon the earth, and by the character in which this conduct has resulted. Thus it is that in the intermediate state he experiences the second state, or that of life in the world to come. This state is called heaven/hell I think.
In the intermediate state there are no real chariots, nor horses, nor roads; but by the light of the Self he creates chariots and horses and roads. There are no real blessings, nor joys, nor pleasures; but he creates blessings and joys and pleasures. There are no real ponds, nor lakes, nor rivers; but he creates ponds and lakes and rivers. He is the creator of all these out of the impression left by his past deeds.
If only there was a practical experience for all that is said here. No one seems to remember anything of this intermediate state! Wonder how many years before this truth is unfolded. Isnt He tired of these yugas and very few souls realizing their true nature and coming back to Him?. What a pass time for Him to put us in pre-determined illusions!
Why is it so difficult to detach from the mind? or identify with the Self?. In one of the verses of Gita:
2. That firm man whom, surely, these afflict not, O chief among men, to whom pleasure and pain are the same, is fit for attaining immortality.
Identification with the body is the cause for pleasure and pain! The more you are able to identify yourself with the immortal, all-pervading Self, the less one will be affected by pairs of opposites like pleasure and pain etc. The power of endurance I think develops will power. Calm endurance in pleasure or pain, heat or cold is the most necessary in the path to Self realization. Though I feel only endurance with no discrimination or intelligence is useless.
I think of the Self like ether. That which encompasses everything and yet contains nothing. It cannot be destroyed or broken and exists in living and non living objects as well. Even if the everything perishes, the Self that pervades cannot perish. It is always all full and self contained and immutable and inexhaustible. Why then do we look outward so much for love and appreciation? Why is the mind impeding and obstructing the view so much?. I sometimes feel the whole world's ego has manifested itself physically as gravity. If we had no ego and no qualities pulling us down like hatred anger jealousy etc, the physical weight of the body would be zero and we can fly!. They do say that once the bottom three chakras are open, one can fly! And the muladhara(materialism, social order, wealth, survival, family) svadhistana (blame, guilt, sex, power, control, expectations), and manipura chakra ( self-esteem, fear of rejection, criticism, ego ) are associated with those respective emotions. Imagine being free of those and nothing to weight you down. I already feel lighter just thinking of being free from those emotions!.
So what do you want to let go of this week or month?